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It was a very good evening with Rod.
I don't think i can pin it down to a nutshell but I can remember some bits.
One was to look at where the nodes and the Moon lie in the natives chart. A further issue was to look at other planets in certain houses - so 3rd to 9th - being about religion and faith and philosophy and 6th and 12th being about retreat and service. Also it was a point to look at where the rulers of the houses of, say, 3rd and 9th houses are in a chart.
We looked at various spiritual leaders - like Martin Luther. Luther had the ruler of his 9th in his 10th house (if I recall correctly) and he had indications of rebellion in the 3rd - but his 'rebellion' was to modify the faith around him - and be the leader.
My own nodal axis is 6th to 12th. Rod had a nifty diagram with pithy descriptors of the various possibilities.
7th was something like - belief through others.
6th was something like 'lost in others' and 12th was something like 'lost between worlds'.
I can see 'me' in the idea of a soul lost between worlds actually! My own variant on that is that I think I have accommodated to that - I think I have made myself at home in the lostness - to the extent that is possible.
Not that I will inflict my poetry on you but the first line of one of my bits goes:
"I am bound to dance the dark".
Thanks for this, Cristina – that's really interesting. Am I to understand that the nodes represent something to do with 'destiny' or 'calling', then?
There seems to be frustratingly little written about the nodes in traditional Western astrology (or maybe I've just somehow missed it). Like you, I've got a 12th/6th nodal axis with the 12th House ruler in the 3rd – and most of today I've found myself involved in communication / service issues. Actually, come to think of it you could substitute 'most of today' for 'most of my life'.
So what do you suppose is the message? Is it to go with the flow of where the nodes are leading, or simply develop an understanding and awareness of your natural steering line and work with or against it more consciously?
I understood there was some theory about the North node representing the direction one should aspire to and the South representing the line of least resistance which one needed to be aware of and avoid at all costs. Or is this too simplistic?
(And come on - there were other people there)
I remember Rod saying he viewed it that neither north node nor south node was 'good' 0 that it was more the south node showed difficulties when it decreased and the north when it increased. Both are 'shadows' 'fated' or otherwise.
Actually I wondered if someone who knows Rod well wanted to mail him about this discussion - he might have a yen to say something himself....
Looking at Luther's chart, he pointed up that Luther had various bits )stuff like Mars near S-node or some-such) in the 3tf, implying he was unhappy in the mainstream religion of the time, and he had the ruler of the 9th in the 10th - implying leadership in his world views....or similar.
I would quite like to see the diiagram again - Richard I think spoke to Rod about getting a copy. If memory serves me right 6th house Nnode had 'lost in service to other people' and 12th house Nnode had 'lost between world', 7th house had a fault at seeing gurus in others and 1st house had it as mis-seeing yourself as one.
I might not be remembering this correctly
As well as the areas of operation and interest given by the nodes through the houses, Rod spoke about anything conjunct or square the nodes being particularly important and strongly emphasized in a chart.
I've emailed Rod to get a copy of the house wheel to share on the forum.
I know I'm not Richard, and I wouldn't swear to it, but I think Rod was using narrow orbs on the nodes - sooo like 2 degrees. Buuuut f I am shown to be wrong, I'll back down gracefully :o) Aaaand sometimes I think there can be a kind of a 'signature' or 'pattern' on a wider orb when it is impt then to take it even if its 'outside the rule'.
That does not help me much with the coming eclipse - my North Node is 10 of Cancer. and my Mercury is 11 of Cancer.
Soooo we will see if I live in interesting times shortly. If nothing else there is that square to Saturn - though I have been viewing Saturn more positively lately as it has been trining other parts of my chart.
As to 'the future of the UK' and other countries stories - errrr um.
It seems to me that that film new-ish out 'Made in Dagenham' is 'coincidentally' in the zone. Right now we have the threat of more strike action than we've seen since Willson/Heath/Mrs T and the 70's/80's plus there is the other end of the orange on the equal rights legislation with womens pensions and entitlements being affected/equalised - not to everyone's liking I am not grumbling here - I think it all had to happen - but there is a symetry going on. Prior the 70's/80's the last big 'strike season' was the Pluto-in-Cancer time of the General Stike - though that was a different type of feel again....but still, with Pluto in Cap there could be echos.
Or maybe I am talking bollux :o)
I would also like a reminder of the housewheel.
Actually I would be happy for a reminder ofthe whole talk - he is a very good speaker.
I did a day seminar on nodes with Liz a few years back and I found the notes a few days ago. At some point in the next week I will write them up and post them here. I don't agree with Rod that nodes are always dangerous because they are places where eclipses occur. They may be dangerous if you actually have a planet conjunct or square the actual eclipse. My take on the nodes is that they combine three important energies - the Sun the Moon and our own planet. That's the self (sun) and 'the people' (moon) right here on planet earth - in other words 'here now'. We 'meet' people on the nodes. I do think the north node is more benefic than the south. The I Ching says Coming to Meet when the two primal forces join. Big stuff. The hexagram carries a warning as the energy is so compulsive.
Thanks for this, Chrissy – I'd be interested to see what Liz (Greene?) has to say about the nodes. I'd always understood they were often to do with relationships, too.
In my experience, eclipses aren't always bad or dangerous; the way an eclipse will play out is usually very difficult to predict, though. I like the way Derek Appleby describes them as the 'power points of astrology'.
Did Rod's house wheel ever turn?
I'm experiencing a reverse nodal return at the moment... and saturn squares my nodes so any more info much appreciated.
Thanks for reminding me. Here's a copy of the wheel Rod sent over. He said he'd be interested to hear any feed back, and happy to answer any questions.
Thanks Richard. I can't get the link to work, so I've emailed you.
ok try this...
Susannah Wilkinson said:
Thanks Richard. I can't get the link to work, so I've emailed you.